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I wish to aCknOW1~~e ~ce~ptCbr your letter poet-marked July 10, 1947, together with its enclosure. . ..

Inasmuch a3 the information which you furnished is of interest to the War Depart~nt I have taken the liberty of furnieh1nc it to that agency for their consideration.

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TO • DIli.!llTOR, Fm DATE: AU&\lst 12, 1947

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.-..... Reference 18 made to :Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated July 30, 1947, Section (B), which advises that all reports concern11l4!: ny~ discs 8hould be investigated. by field offices.

Prior to the receipt of those instructions, two instances were called. to the attsntion of this office concernine flying diScs. One report was received July 7, 1947, the detailS of which are set forth in Milwaukee letter to the Bureau dated July 8, 1947, entitled,· "Flying Discs or Saucers, Miscellaneous, l'e1ephone Call trom Mr. Fletcher at the :Bureau at 5: 30 a.m., 7-7-47. n No investigation was conducted concerning this report.

l'he second r this offic 1:20 p.m. July 11, 1947. from who is in charge of the Civil Air in, an awdliary of the Army Air Forces. On that occasion a call~ from Black River FallS, W1Bconsin, telephonically advised this office that an object in the shape of a disc, nineteen inches in diameter had been fbund July 10, 1947, by one deity el ectrician on the Jackson County· fa.irgrounds, near lIlack Riov:er Fulls, Wisconsin, about 3: 30 p.!!!. '1C. 1'he disc might be made of a substance su:h as cardboard covered by a p silver airplane dope material. 1'he contraption has a 8I:I8ll woodsn tail like a rudder in the back and inside of -the disc is what appears to be an RCA photo-eleotric cell or tube. Also inside the disc is a little electric motor with a shaft running to the center of the disc. At one end of the shatt is a very small propeller.

1I0.P.in.i.o.n.tha.t.c.onlttraption might possibly have been made by some Juvenile.

stated that he desired to return the oontraption to Milwaukee and eventually turn it over to the Army Air Forces, but that the finder, ..... apparently wanted to get some publicity OIl bis tind and wanted it returned to him.

l'hi8 information was telephonically called to the attention of .tsaiatant Director D. M. LADD of the Bureau on July 11, 1947.

SubseqI1E1ltly, SAC H. X. JOm,SON telephoned Colonel 1n charge of Counter Intell1t:ence, lI'ifth A:rmy, Ch1cago AC of G-2 1_ HEi8.dquarters lI'ifth Army, :ERst Hyde Park Avenue, Chicago, Ill1nois, who KJ 7t. atated he would contact~f lIlack River Falls, Wisconsin •.

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o o :rbe above oonstitutes the only two instlUlCes in which

this office was contacted concerning flying discs. Unlesa contrary 1n~t1ons are received fran the lltl.ree.u, this office does not

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i.ndividual postm-,rked Jul> 12, 1947, conc,;rninz'irflyiug saucers."

There is also attached a letter of acknowleasernent'to" '1 c. _ tocether with a letter to the Vi<i.r Departcc8nt for ap,.;ru~ b ..

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~RECTOR'FBI AND SACS, SEATTLE AND PORTLAND URGENT

~LYING UISKS, ~ECURITY MATTER-X. LT. COL. OF G2, SAN FRANCISCO, AUVISEC.. TODAY HE HAS NO , ., UN '1C ANi) THAT OUrl St:ATTLE OFFICE IS IN POSSESSIOH OF ALL INFOR!'.HI0N lJ KIJO\IN bY HIM AND IS HANDLING THE MATTlf. t.-'" TM:OMA, \/ASH .. INCOTON.,. 1/1 , 1\ •. ;''';7 • b ~ / ·,,.1 . / '/ .' '1 ~--' ./, I, K I MBAL'L ,r., CORD~D .... ':::~eor.:-~ -!:'. "

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5~ Atmtli~', ~, ur t is suggested the.t it be suite.bly pe.re.phre.sed in order~o rotec e Buree.u's coding systems. ' .

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to important aoronautical and military authorities, to a numbor of public officials and to a tow publications.

The writer has little oxpoctation that anything of imj?ort I'1llL\)~.~~:::p113h"<l. by this gssture. The Illora fact that U,e data herein I,ere obtl!!.ned by so-:callcd supernormal moans is probably sufficient to insure its disre?,ard by noarly all the persons addrossed; nevertholoss it soems a public duty to mako it available. (The pres6nt writor has several univorsity degrees and nas tormorly a university depart-ment head). ,/)

A very serious situation may develop at any timo uith r~gard to tha ~fly1ng ~~~~," __ If ono of those sh[ul~ be attacked, the attacking plane nill almosr-cer: tainly be destroyed. In tho publio mind this might croate noar panic and int6rnat­ional suspicion. The princip~ data concerning these craft is no~ at hand and must be offered, no matter how fantastic and unintelligiblo it Illay soem to minds not provicusly 1nstruatod in th1r.king of this t}~G.

• 1. Part of the disks carry crolls, others are undor remote oontrol. 2. Their mission is p&acoful. The visitors contomplate sottlinG on this ,lane 3. ~ese visitor~ are hucan-liko but mu.h larger in size,

4. They ara 1I0T sxoarnatc earth poople, but como from their 0;;0 \7orld. 5. They do NOT com" from any "planet" as ;;0 use th3 ,lOrd, but froI:l an othano

planet which interpenetrates ;~th our oun Gnd is not parceptlble to us. 6. The bodies of the Visitors, ·and the craft also, automatically '~toriali~e

on entoring the vibr&tcry rate. of our dense. matter: (Cp. "apports. "i , . .

7.. The disks possess a tYV9 of radiant enerBY, or a ray, which ..tll oasily disintegrate any attacking ship. They reanter the otherio at .. ill, and so simply disappear from our Vision, without brace.

S. .TI1e rasion from Clhich thoy como is NOT the "astral plano", but corres -ponds to the Lekas or Talas. Students ot osoteric matters ~ll understand these terma. 1ND~ . b

~, a signal system can be d~vised for that (aiinlla~~~f (-:.: ...: F ;) ,'.'; I:' . ..... ,). ."A-

.T I;;g: u. ~ _ -~ ~ I t Wo give information Ond.llIuning, and can do no moro. Le~tho n:e';com~ boo te~ with every kindness. Dnloss the disks ara w1~~~, a a~~uti~ ~aton9

which our cul turo and science are incapable of~l'rng. ! hoavy rospon,,! bil-\ rests upon the to .. in authority omo art) able to understand-tftio.e ~r, -

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DATE: August 8, 1947 Director, FBI

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-"'-- Re Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, 1947, Series 1947, wherein information is set forth pertaining to flying discs.

There is enclosed with this letter a newspaper clipping from the "Norfolk Ledger-Dispatch", dated July 9, 1947. The. photograph appearing on this clipping,!s alleged to represent a !lying disc which was observed by BILLH'URRENTlNE, a Norfolk school boy, who was successful in photographing the object with his small camera,

BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special··· Agent (A) & i at which time BILLY informed that the f, original negative was given by him to a Mr. BROWN of the Photo 7 C Craftsman Service, who in turn furnished the negative to the Internationa:!. News Service. BILLY advised that he has an agree-ment with -Mr. BROW whereby the latter will share equally in any profits derived-from the use of the negative by commercial firma I or newspapers. As of August 8, 1947 BILLY has not received any }-/ remuneration for the use of thia negative.

He informed that he was sitting on the front porch of his apartment which is located on the third floor at 410 West 14th Street, Norfolk. Virginia, around noontime on July 8, 1947. He had read numerous newspaper articles pertaining to flying discs and decided to sit on his front porch in the hopes of Beeing one and attempting to photograph it. On July 8, 1947 BILLY observed a large, black object moving rapidly through space proceedine from the Bouthv~st to a northeast direction. He said the black object was followed by two smaller objects which a:!.so proceeded in the same direction. BILLY explained that the objects were moving at a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster than the speed of an airplane. and further, that the objects appeared to 1>e extremely high. He said that they were much higher than the , .,:)1

average plane travels in the City of Norfolk and appeared to be ' above the clouds, and that a white mist followed each of the three objects. BILLY was unable to state what the black objects repre­flented, but admitted that they could have been large balloons. He indicated that he has observed small, toy balloons flying through

. the air, but that definitely theae were not the toy type balloons. He said that when he first observed the objects they weret!;t':'sl'ch ~ .

! a great distence from him that it was not necessary that ':he ;..raiss ... · ,- / ,.­his head in order to see them from his porch on the third n.'9r" --.;:.--::- ---- .. ot ,the apartment building. He imnedlately turned aroundi:"S-q"llitin1 ""ffd' \I

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his camera and estimated it took him approxLmately tlftlnty to thirty seconds, at which time the discs were almost directly over his apart­~t and it was necessary that he stoop and look up almost perpen­dicular in order to obtain the photograph, which accounts for the porch railing being shom in ths newspaper clipping. BILLY pointed out that the day on Which he took the picture, the weather was hazy and somewhat cloudy and there was a slight breeze blowing trom the southwest in the general direction ot the northeast, which is the same direction traveled by the black image which he photographed.

Inaamuch as the ~ authorities in the Tidewater Area of Virginia are cognizant ot the above information, no further investi­gation will be conducted by this office in this matter.

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1'('IHlI'tf'r l..1rorgr. IIN'lu'l·t (IrCt) 0(' thf" "lUrk.' ('ifrUnll'itanrf"14 whh'h (,uahlrd him to takr thp Jlhot(J~T"llh nt fi right 01 a rr,'lnK fIiMot·. Hn\\'f"\'I'r, thf" ho," I'oI:.ill Iht' ohj('rt )Ikllll'('() III' looked and ulOv~d lUII"p IIkr • root hall, 17('lng fnllndc-d ancl o"al. ruth, than dl!ollJ'.ltkf'. Bill took tbls 1,ldurt· fl'om the I)ol'f"ii or hiN hOllw i

.. to \\'CfoI.t }o'ourlernth Hlrert b{'twf'en It o'clork and I1110n ,}'u(".;(la tlWlifol"!I Notr: Allhough the maybe a rock ,or stone. The edges 1I81ng an old C'allll'ra, \\"1Ib. thfO: HhuUrf !lf't at l/JOOth of a "t!cond. 1

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A Ih "r1.j to f th II" 1 lIslng. Havln", clost!ly examhwu 'I<.: had lu~t I"Nlirned {rom Sum- R ,I" ,.\ nl".' 00 a paRsec the nrgatl\,{' thrv said the onl\'

011,'1 11:("11001 C'laRl'(,1 at M~UI'V, he o\'('r, HIli !'laid he took three shots Claw was In ~e kind oC film whkh ~Id. and with all the- talk 'about ?~ Il: ~,~~ \y'~l_~n ~~. _hu~~~~!!y_ (tV~~' nprhans dinn't. hr-lnv out enolH!h " ." in.':" ~a. llC'{'I'S," had gone out IOlH,{1 we HlIll, aw'r legging H to dcta'i1r-""he---'pohllcd"'ou-t-"howevc·r \' 'Ii. hj~ ('ame-ra to .ee If he could Olney Roarl Cor !I vIal o( develollcl', that this ~afln't really a flaw In '1 anything, ' onl" 011(> negative came out well view oC the fact tJ~at' Bill''' ph~to-

I don', fI;('('·why· thcv {'<.o1l th(,1ll enough ror reproduction. graph, with the COTnparlspn ar· r' ,t~ t<:iluc('rs." h(, .sHin. "Tile hlgl ~Ie fthow(-'cl a l'epOl"ter a rOil tact (ordc'd by Lhe {I'ont porch rail anll , 1 look a pwlIIl'l' or RI1I1 the two J)l'!nt he had made hlmf;E'lf, and the trf'l'lI, Willi certainly thc best

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~ FLYING DISCS, SM DASH Xo RE TELEPHONE CALL FROM MR.' LADD, ONEP~l TODAY REQUESTING TELETYPE SUNMARY CONCERNING NEWSPAPER REPORTS OF ,

RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENI

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SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY TII!ENTYSEVEN LAST AND INTERVln:ED

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MCCHORD FIELD. THE TACOMA NEWS TRIBUNE AND THROUGH THE~THE UNITED

PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE PLANE WAS CARRYING PARTS OF A DISC 14HICH ,

HAD STRUCK A BOAT OWNED BY HAROLD DAHL AND FRED CRISNAN , TACOMA, WN •

h1c ADVISED THAT TODAYS ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN CARRIES A UP STOR

STAT1NG THAT DAHL DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS HE FURNISHED WERE

FROM A DISC, AND ANALYSIS OF THE FRAGMENTS SHOWS THEM TO BE FROM A

TACOMA SLAG MILL. NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVAILABLE PORTLAND.

NO RECENT SUBSTANTIVE REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS IN THE PORTLAND AREA.

SEATTLE VERIFY AT MCCHORD FIELD AND SAN FRANCISCO VERIFY AT AAF

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DATE: August 61 1947

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••••• Io<)f Mr. RO.!len -!II the Liaison Section contacted :: ii:::i=n == Army Air Forces Intelligence, inquiring ::: ~;:..--

stating in BUbstance tha. an airLp' ~:e C~~~~ga;.:.a.\~ve~~~:¢:!!rs i.7c l Eioo-",-,_-,-n-_-IJ r,le, Room -creshed in route from PortlaIrl, Oregon, to L:>s Angeles, california. !!'i;."::~~--

"taa Ganc1y-== __ advised --. tha t the only infoI'llll. tion J

that has been~Headquarters of the Army Air Forces is that a r. ele Agent of the 4th Air Force. Headquarters, HIlmilton Field, San Francisco, ",rl-was killed in an airplane crash. The Headquarters of the Air Forces have been) I y' V

, ::~;!e!~~e h~,:=s~~o~ ~~~tS~~:~I~1:~~· .. ~u~~~a:'d f:.\~e~ 7t:~"i interview wi th ~bo is 0113 of the iIrli viduals '\'/ho first saw ore of

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the fl31ng saucers. REOORDTW / '_ L,;~ '/ -// ...... tated that the Air Fo~~J~it~liIformati~~

and will recefW nom until the report is receive.rrr=om thilHttA.Ai:r;:, ~,. _~r:!-

::-=~~~SU~;g~ige~~S:~ted that the San Francisco Field OIf-8 contact eolonel,,),%1 4th Air Force_, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, who )" .

are at taia ~~ u-~~::e bt; ~r:~;~t!~:;~s ~~~~~~ :tter which- • k 7 G pointed out to ) hOlvever l that it was his belief that no flying saucers have been recovered bJl.:L1Qs.uj;_ViS~e.rel;La!!...ti!-YJ!m£-1:_.~~~-~

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From, .' . 'Jobti Edgar Hoover - D1reotor,Federal Bureau o! Inve/Jtlgation

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There are attached hereto coples ot a letter received from the above-captioned lndiv1dual concerning "flying discs."

letter has been acl:no1l1edged and he has been 'c '7C. ot his letter bave been furni/Jbed to you for ~our=lJ

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"aukesha, Wis.

Attn.

Federal BurstS' of Investigation -'J; • Gentlemet;

Recent2 I have heurd and read about reports of disc-shaped aircraf1

or whatever they are, in our western regions. They reminded me of a nearly

forgotten jncident in Germany, after the war. I report this to you because

I feel this ~y be of international scope.

My buddy and I went on pass to see a friend of his. One evening the

three of us were driving alOnb some back roads when I sighted a strange

looking object in the sky from eight to ten miles to our front and approx­

imatly 5,000 feet high.

I immediatly stopped the jeep for a better look. fhe object rapidly

came towar~ us, descending slowly. About a mile away it stopped it's

horizontal motion but continued a slow oscillating descent, similar to a

descending parachute. Then suddenly it dropped in a spiral motion.

lnmediatly I drove over to where it had dropped. It took almost five

minutes to reach the place but we saw nothing. After ten minutes of cruis~ ~ ,'\ ~q'jto;;blm:tr.:Gt.; ' ....

ing arcund the area it became too dark to see so we went back to town • .. because

I am not sure my companions saw thisAit happened so quickly it could

easily ~ve been missed, but I described what I had seen so vividly that

they were as excited as I was. :cP~i1Si~ i~P~~;Si09~r ~ t~'ft it wa: ~ cloud

b fit it was travelinL at ribht angr,e,ac.Uto lh.e.lf.iJ1~.-··· _ .• '..1... - 1/ 1~i9"- 'i\" l" ~ Ii. /

The local of this incident was a:rro~n!at:l(y J~ 'mUes north-w~st of

Habberbi~hopshiem. If necessary, I will swear.~e authenticity ot this

and to thi'hape of the object. q)~ \ j 1'\, Since~y Y

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u. ED STATES DEPAliTloIEllT OF Jr 'Ie I (}

To: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION.

Transmit 'the following message to:

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REURTd. AUGUST 5 JUTERIAL SfDULD 1m BE FORWARDED TO FBI LABJRATOR'! FOR; 7 v EX.u:DU.TIONBUT SHOULD DE TU!lNF.D ovm TO THE AR.I!! AIRFOlCE INTELLIGENCE.

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SubJect I kIt. thore are oil ttac:hed 0,.9p1011 ot & letter reCCli Tod tro.'!\

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1. On 1 Jul7 1947, Lt. r.1111. O. VClCln\7, ~, 195903, J'o«):~' ,.;., , ~:~'f'. ~ :,. .' StUl1ant., \;uu ..... 11eld, ChAndler, t.ri&OM, .... lnt..rn1C!1focl bT " W. Atent., and .t.aWd in Illbet.aneel That. Oft )0 .111M 1947, at. about. 0910, II!iT, be ... n71n4 at. 25,000 teet. 0Y.r Orllrd Call1'on, Ui.lOfta, ia a P-eO W. a1rcrlltt.. Re ltat.oct \.bat. be ._ bea,~ _\.b towarde ~·W"" Field, AriIOM, whan he eaw \.1<10 rolllll1 objoct.a [0111& at. 1nconceSYllble 1Ip09d11 r .t.raJc)lt. down. He tl/.l't.b6r .t.at..cI U-.at. hU roacUou we" to t.um -&1 tro: \.be objectee He tur\.bar .taW that. one or t.hI un14e~ UIS.able objeet.1 toUowecl the oth<r .eoonda aPllrt.. He tlll't.ber It.at.od \.bat. ... to t.hI lpeed ot the object.a, he oould onl,r ... \hat. thq we" c1rculAl', and' \.bat. t.'-7 .. re po .. lble 14ht. CI'&11n color. lie turt.ber .l.at.e4 t.hlt. n waa h1I op1n1on that. the obJecta wue approx1lol~ e1l!J1t. teet. In cl1.cllet.er. 1ft cllncluDlan, he It.at.eel I.hat. t.ha obJeot.a tIOuld hay:proboblr hU. t.he UcaJM ap: rolCi."3IIt.elr tote~t1Y. all .. lOuth or t.hI !-out.h JUa of Orw Can7Ol\, Ar1s.onA.

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2. on 1 .Iul7 1947, Caj t&ln .aloola o. AlDet.ront, OJ73416B, lnatructor, :;S,J1(le ;·q;lnG, ',UU __ Fleld, Chondlar, Ar1:ona, -. Inhrvl<Med br thS I !.eon" and .t.At.ed in IIlhet-ancel 'nat. till brother, lat. Lt :::. n. Armatrcnt, 1t.atJ.onecl at. IIq, lOU1 ~AY, IIroolcs f.lr, TOXDD had 1'014t.ed to h~ thltt. hi All • tormUon ot unoxplalnable obJocta in the 9lc1nUr or Wke lind, X.... C.,~A1A I,mSI.'IIIlG, tllrt.bel' et.et.ecl thaI. hlol "!'Oth.. • t.& t.ed the obJ Ie t.a were ha aclln& • au th, and were at. approllUla t.el¥ 10,000 teat. &l t.1 t.Gde.

IIGl'l'IT':J N:)'r~:.1 C.~f\.a1n I.nIllt.~ oolll.d not. r;he \00 .udI W_"t.SDft on the obJeot.D thaI. hi. brot.hC' had aton. Lt..,~ .. B. ~ft& can be Olnl&ot..d at. Rq, 10th 1. '.', DNOke neld, TcxSll IfII' rart.t-_ WoruUon.

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attached ~ype. He wanted to know what policy the Bureau was following in connection with reports concerning these Raying discs" which were recei v.d. }; 1 c.

I told llr. Weeks that, unl,e8D advised to we contrary, he should, particular caee at hand, allow Q..2 to handle III d not take any juri sdiction tor the FBI. He was 1told the Bureau 1Duld be interested in being kept a dvised of develop-

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ha's come to the resident agency at Santa Fe, Nell Mexico report that she has received information concerning flying objects passing through the air. Some of the reports that IIhe has received concern light objects seen at night which have allegedly been follow-ed b~losions. She advised that one of a.uch objects was reported by I I _ ) who works near Canjilon, New Mexico. She claims that IJ ,C-others were seen near Par,; View and Tierra Amarilla, Nel1 Mexico •

....-called attention to clippings from various newspapers'" 1C concerning "disc-like" objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the count~.

___ claims to be a student of radio waves and l'a¥ forms, and 17 contends that the above mentioned objects mavr be missiles similar to those appear-IJ ' ing over SWeden some time ago.

the above with officials of the Atomic '-1e. of War and other government p

IlU'V .... 'toU that at ~~!:!?,~_~\,!~:,?_IIO(;L-~)O-'3~_,,:,?q not Vlell balanced mentally. She has mem,.Lorletl

wasstruck-b"Y-lightiiiilg llilen a child.

On July 15, ceme to the Santa Fe resident agency and /" "1 c.. advised that she had written to WALTER WINCHELL, promising him a story in connfct~on with the "f~ng discs."

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,', 'Rsfereme is made to lIlY memorandum to you in the ~boVEI oapti~ matter da~uly 10. 1947, indioating that 8r1eadier.Gemral George F. ~ilulgen of the Army Air Corps Intelligence had requested that the ~reau oooparate ldth 'the Army Air Corps In&elligenoe in oonmction with the above captioned matter. The Director noted on the referemed. memoramum. "I would do it but before agreeing to it '116 must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For, instance in the Ia. case the A.rJiry grabbed it a,m would not let us have it for cursory eJalDin9.~on.n

'This is to advise that Spacial Agent-.lias recontaoted anllral Schulgen ard advised, him ~oom,~n witJl"'!!1a Direotor's notation • • ne~ Schulgen in1ioated t at he desired to assure l!r. Hoover of oomplete cooperation in is matter am stated that he 'I'IOuld issue instrllltions·to the field directing that all cooparation be furnished to the FBI an1 that all discs recovered be made available for the eJCaJllm tion by '1/' the FBI Agents. IIll!IIfti.l SOhulgen pointed out to ...-..,tbat he 1Iill /) '" from time to time make thB results of the studies of his soientists available to the Bureau for the assistance of the FBI Field Offices. &u);Ira1 Schulgsn ird1catQd to~that thBrehas been a deorease in the reported sie1ltings of the discs whioh midlt be beoause of the iact that it has lost =h of its p.tblicitY value. He irdicated. homver. 'that he believed it moessary to follow this matter through to detennine as near as possible if discs l'oere in fact selin and to detenn1ne their origin.

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~ral Sohulgen inquired of.-.. the method by lIhioh thB ~reau would malal the information obta~Bureau's inquiries. koo1m to the Air Corps, in the Field as 'll8ll as at the YBr DeJ:8rtaent l.evel. lir. -"oointed out to o"neral Sohulgan tha, t the best prooedure appeared to L 7e. "Iie""tiirOugb. the regular established ohannels. It was pointed out to -.mral (J , iioh.u1gen that the Bureau F.i.eid Oii'ioes maintain close liaison with' the 'IntelligelllJe Divisions of: the various Armie s as '11811 as olose liaison with the Intelligeme Division of the YlLr DeJ:8rt.mrmt. ~ral Sohulgen 1ndioate<;l~1; he ""l would be sat1st:ied to reoe1va infcrmation~ro~ .. 'f:6!lfJ.1 b? ... L.":">,';'J.'/'1- J~

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·Gemral Sohuleen indicated to that he belf!!:~td ~t,there _s a possibility that this entire matter might lBve been starll~ I);Y' sllt've'rsive l irdividuals for the purpose of oreating a mass hysteris. Ii3 suggested that tb.8p 7£ Bureau keep this in min::l in any interviews corducted regl.rding reported Bigltings. Oanaral Sohulgen stated to that he would make available to the au-eau all ""._UM in"", '" All- C.'P' ~.u"'-"" "'" ""'ti~ 1IIlre i'irs~ported so that the Bureau oould oomuct SClllll investi!;ltion re .. ng these ,in1ividuals to ascertain 'their motives for reporting that they had \I md nyin~ discs. When Gemral SchUlgan zzalms the information availabla re g theae individual~~ it 1Iill be proIIlptly brcu~t to your attention.

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BiOn is attached a Burea.u Bulleti.n to the Field for their aSsistroe in han:llinr; this matter.

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.. and to ~xpr.88 lIlY appreoLation to 'you for bringlI1/; thb III!1tter to 1117 attentl.on.

The Wo~tl.on lIet torth 1n your letter hall b~n caretull,y reviewed and I.e being _lnt.alned.: 1n t.hl.. Bureau a., • _tter ot record.

S1ncerel¥ yours,

John Edgar Hoover ". ' ! ~ L. Director

,~_N~O,.::TEI ... has been'lI previous correspondent with the Bu file ~: ~:rT-:::JjQO:reco~d be located in the Crime Records Section indication,.' ~: ~41n .. _.r> .. .,mental case,. ,;"'.. ';:\.. ~: ::;,,_= p;,OMMUNICA J IONS" SE.WOr.; ", .' " £' • . t. rue)' ~ ~~ . L-}

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Jear Sir; Please forgive me for taking up your time,with this item.It really:

:1ecessary"Yot'8!I~rl:ugh everybodys tongue was wagging from the East and tWill lest coast,l c 't resist putting my oar in.

')I);'H'i satcers in the Sky.Heading for the Milky W~y.FunnY?I dont know. , i;

We relld and 3M d and read. "Sky Disc Derby Open to All "-"calls "Saucers"'J.'r: ,:,f Vision"-"Believe it or not, 27 states see those flying saucers "-"Who saw; tl .;a\lcers?40 States in the Game"-IICelestial Dishes sought between the Raindrop, '}o'ind 'Disk'is weather kite"-"Disks called chunks of Mirage"-"Report new Red 'lanes resemble 'Flying Saucers "'.-Air-liner crew reports seeing 9 flying disl "or 12 minutes".That's the way it went on,for days and days.

Please,dont remind me that this id a militllry problem.Soldie rs fd:.ght....±he." )my out in the open and a\,lay from home if possible.The Federal Agents{the un, leroes)fiBht the ememy under cover and in their home grounds.So.Here 1 am.

These so-maIled saucers may be kites,but accorfiing to reports,these thine i iidn't flutter or float,they sailed and kites don't sall,tl~e stillanges part i , chey all sailed in the same direction,from west to East.

Rewards were offered,no collectors.P~nes chased them,none captured.They h .0 land,no finders.So.As 101~ as the Military,Scientist and Civilians deny,be

.'espomsible 1'or this.\'Iere doed it lead t01An enemy.A little while back,it war

. :tlntioned somewhere that Russia had or has a contraption for their next war,E

.. tUng sound(like a silent whistle for dogs)what it'snxto do,to their enemy,] ,on't know.If- a country was experimenting such a weapon,the brave people of 1 :.S.were not scared.~hey only informed the so-called enemy how successful th, ;r.aiz were.

It could be an optical illusion,orjsupposing some unwelcomed persons,plan1 . few well chosen words,here and there snd left the rest to aft contused mind, .:-.Olse innocent people reporting the phenomena~ .

What confuses me is,that when We became too curious and determined to fine ut what they really are,those thines disappeared and Vie found substi;utes,cf .1tes.These things resembling description as near as possible to the real thl :l1y couldn't these things have been directed bI ck home again like a hOwing pJ

To make 'sport of this thing,is bid taste.It sort of reminds me of the boy ried \:.'OL}'.\'lhen the Vlolf really came.~'Was sad.He,was a niceho .'i'here houlrl t

. :lw,against auch jo),es or ex ' e t th • S ould be conet' , u be tried for toe proper authorities.'rheae C1.

ess or ridicules .We can't take any ~~ason, eveni if the so-called joke seems r 21i8 POOH POOH 'business.is no joke. ances.At this age.~'ime is slow.Man,is f

I had in mind that the flOOds Vlere "ahing waters of the Uississippi r.jiss~~;io~~~~e for these disks(mirages)the ~~ going from East to Vlest,plus he catskill i et~Olumb1a and Ohio Rivers.Th

ee in the East and the Rock" Hounta'-- L .• .. n __ , e EaS1j,i r ly North.~he BluA Jre,went from West to East.He~cEl the D1':k xn?I'thne Viest.Re!"ections __ -What~ve'~ i

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At request of • irier Gel1er&l _g8 r.·scblllgen .. Chbf of ;~~·~:lli:;;;·; .~ the Requir6ttts Intelligence Branch of . Army Air Corps IntelligeIlce, ~;;. 3:;~;=

, Special At;ent • I dhcussed the above captioned matter with him on July 9, 194'. ...,erlll 8C1:~ell indicated to thl;.t the Air Corps has taken the attitude thnt every effort must be undertaken in or~er to run down

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/:li :b~;t·th;m:--A;~~rdi~vio·o;n;;~i~ch~i~;n7"th; At;·C~~ i~t;iii~;n~;--';e~ 7l: utilizing all of their Icientilts in order to ascertai~ whether or not BUch a pheoo!llenon could in fact occur. He Itated that this rosenrch 18 beiDg conducted wIth the thought that the flying objects might be a celestial phenomenon ~ with the view that they might be a foreign body mechanically devised an~ controlled •

. \t)enern:" Scbulgen allo indicated to.-.. that all Air Corps installations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting to obtain all I poss1ble data to assist in this raaelU'ch prOject. In passing, 'Genera.l Sc'nllgen iJ 1C. - - - - - - ·"'1

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tpn8rltl Sohult;.~ind.icated to ..... that he 1& des1::-ous of having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated. that reports of his ,cientists and findings of the various Air COrpl installation8 will be available in his office. He· advised that to complete the picture he desired the assietAnce

ijOf the Jederal Bureau of Investigation in locating and questioning the individuals who !ir&t sighted the so-calle~. flying dhks in order to ascertain whether or not they are sillCere in their statements tbat they saw these disks, or whether their L1 Itatements were prompted by personal desire for publicity or political reasons. II t.

I {'OBneral Schulgen assured that there are no War Department or Navy Department rese~rch projEcts presently beinG conducted which could tn any Vay be thd up with the flying disks. "General Schulg_en indicated tc~that 'Ill if ~he Bureau.would cooperaU with him 111 thi.s-inatter. he woui"["offer all the facll1tiea o~b1s off1co a8 . . ~o. result.". ~~tai~J. 111 the effort to identify and. run "down thte mJU.teT.. ~ / ,,_ 0 ;;> r) r/ .. / _ 33

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also dhcuued thh lllatter with of JIW • 1C •• t • .a that it was hi. attitude that inasmuch as 1t has been '7

:f1 ying dhks are not the re8ult of any J.xmy or Navy experi~ . C. lllatter 1s of interest to the FBI. He stated that he wa' of the opinion

Bureau. 1f at all possible, should accede to General Schulgen's request. a

I would rl3commend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not believe it should go into these investigations, it being noted that a great bulk of those alleged discs reported found nave been pranks. It is not believed that the Bureau would accomplish anything by going into these investigations.

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.. ...-iYfREC 8!3elr ROUTINE

~FLYING DISCS SIGHTED BY

WASHINGTON, SM X. REURTEL INSTANT DATE. PLEASE

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STATED THAT IF QUESTIONED BY AUTHORITIES HE WAS GOING TO SAY·IT WAS

A HOAX BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT ANY FURTHER TROUBLE OVER THE MATTER. ,-

COMPLETE REPORT NOW EN RO~TE TO BUREAU AMSD, WHICH -. PROBABLY ___ •• MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE

INDICATES 61 C. CALL IN THE

HOPE OF BULDING UP THEIR STORY THROUGH PUBLICITY TO A POINT WHERE

THEY COULD J1AKE A PROFITABLE DEAL WITH~SY..MAG-AZINE, CHICAGO

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(B) l.fYlliQ ~ISCS -- TIle Bureau, at the request of the Army Air Forces Intelligence has agreecr-to'oooperate in the investiel'tion of flying discs. The Air Forces have ' contidentiaW advised that it is possible to release three or IIIOre discs in odd ...... numbers, :i'ot e!!!liea tosether by a Wire, from an airplane in high al ti tudes and that these diE would obtain tremendous speed in their descent and would decend to the earth in arc. The Army Air Forces Intelligence has also indicated some concern that the __ ported e1ght1nsa m1g.ltt have been made "by subversive individ.uals fer the purpose • sl"eatin(l a mass hysteria.

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You should investisate each instance which is brought to your attention ~f a. si&'1tinG of a flying disc in ord~r to ascar+va1n l:.'hsthar or net is 1s e. bona fide_sightinll, an imaGinary one or a prank. You should also bear in mind that "-individuals might report seeing flying discs for various reasons. It is conceivable < that an individual mi(#lt be desirous of, seekins personal publicity, caueing hystE'!'i~ I or playint a prank. ,.,

::' I TIle Bureau should be notified immediately by teletype of all reported ~

s1shtin(lB and the results of your inquiries. In instances where the report appears i'i: to have merit, the teletype should be followsd by a letter to the Bureau containing c~ in det..a11 the results of yOU1" 1nq\!1r1ea~ TIle Amy Air Forces have assured. the U:. Bureau complete cooperatinG in these matters and in any instances where they fail to~; make information available to you or make the recovered discs available for your examination, it should promptly be brou(#lt to the attention of the Bureau.

Any 1n!·Orma. tion you develop in conn.ec't.l.on Wl."ton 'tneae disca should be '!Jromptly brou~t to the attention of the Army through your usual liaison channels •

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!.?ter rearling it aloud to the family, as a good example' ~~~. N<....... .. . of crltck-pot-ism, advertising or what bave you, he threw'" it into the wastebesket. I retrieved it, thinking it m~@,~t·-ft.-t-;F....J better go into your wastebasket than ours, examined by your department en route thither, es of possible value. r presume several thoussnd bave been mailed, and you mlty reveive numberless duplicates. I will risk that. _ I 7t. as an economist at Columbia University receives many strange ~ missives. This il as strange a one as has come for some time, and very appropriate to the

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Have you seen one ot the mysterious ·Saucers·?

What did it look like?

Do you think these strange, celestial manitesta-

tions are harbingers ot a better day?

Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary

advance is coming?

Will it make your lite brighter, happier, more •

usetul?

We believe one ot these startling discs is on its

way to you. Then the secret will be out.

The Combined and Amalgamated Committee ot Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and New-Product Introducers.

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fq PLfiNG ,SAUCERS" ED'rIIN K-BAI LEY , JR. STAW'ORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT ATOMIC ENERGY ACT -" thil is to advise tle. t 011 July 7. 1947. I

Stamford. Connectiout, appeared at the () 7(' and furnished the following information,-

~prefaoed his remarks by ltating that he 18 a Icientist by oooupation and is ourrently employed at the Amerioan Cyanamid Research 6 Laboratoriell on West llain Street in Ste.mtord. CCJIllleotiout. in the Physics Division. further indioated that during the war he wall employed at MIT, sachuaett., in the Radiation Laboratory whiah Labora-tory is connected with the Manhattan Projeot. ~advlled that he 11 thirty yearl of a~e and is a graduate of the Un~y of .u-i&ona.

~stated that the topio of wflying Baucer~" had oaused considerable -- com;;;;Ii?'imd concern to tha present day loientists and indicated that he him­

.elf }ad a personal theory~rning the -flying sauoers w• Prior to advancing hill own theory~ remar~~tely after the conclu­don of World.War II. a friend of his, --. allegedly obserred the "flying saucerll" from an pb.ervatory in Milan and Bologna. Italy. He

_. .tated that apparently at that time the "flying saucerll" had cauaed a little comment in Italy but that after some little publicity they immediately died '1C out as publio interest. tha17 it is quite possible that IB actually the -flying could be radio controlled germ bombs or atom bomb. which are Circling the orbit of the earth and 1Ihich could be controlled by radio and directed to land on any designated target at the IIpecifio cl.esire of the agency or country operating the bombs. lI$ stated thl>.t one at the itema of interest 1Ihich he personally hall obllerred is the fact that the Baucerll have been obllerved in )lexico City. New Orlean., Philadelphia .• New York. Bollton, Halifax, Newfoundland. Parb. Milan. ,Bologna and YugOlllavia &8 well AI Albania. By placing a .tring -:o.':J!ld 'tfle globe ot the earth ~

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the 1'lying disoll reported to have been Seen by IIIIIllY oi tiseus. He advised I" C. that 110 IDIUl,Y had reported having seen them that it undoubtedly was not a 10 I tigment o£ the imagination. He said that theso disos had been lIeen on July 1, 1947, in the vioinity o£ 1'rai1 Creek near Sun Va.ll~ Idaho, by J:8putable oiti&ens. ' " '"" .... ,!"!~

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On the evening of July 9, 1947, a report was received at the Los Angeles Office that a so-called "flying disc" had landed in the vicinity of Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood, California, the contraption being briefly described as approximately )0 inches in diameter, all metal, disc shaped, and having a radio antenna. It .was reported to have burst into flames upon landing. At the time of the report the disc was being held at the Valley Fire Department in Van Nuys, California. , .

went to the fire department immediately at which time was found that a number of pecple had gathered including news-paper reporters and p~oto aphers who were taking pictures of the disc. ~ Battalion Fire Chief advised Agent that at approximately 7t.. 10:30 P.M., an unknown woman calle on the telephone and excitedly reported that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. A fire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object with the fire hose, after which the object was taken to the fire station. SA~ thereafter.arranged to transport the disc to the office.

The device is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel discs approximately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge and fastened to'gether in the center by a hollow cylindrical connection. A vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a short length of pipe closed at one end ran from the outer circumference into the interior of the contraption. What appeared to be a radio tube was installed in the center of the top side. The contraption had a total weight of approximately 20 pounds.

At the Bureau Office a series of photographs were taken of the device from various positions, and a set of these photographs are betng· forwarded herewith for the Bureau's inspection and information •

. The "flying disc" W;!hereafter tUrned over to !.!ajor ,.. ~ A.C., 0-2, F,6rt ¥B-c hur, San Pedro, California, who subsequent­ly reported that the ,objeC, w~ definitely a hoax and under no circumstances could have flO~,.~d~r lt8V9~ power.

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On the following day, July 10, 1947, one •• ~ ... ~~~ North Hollywood, reported that on morning he was at

the North Hollywood Service Station eating at which time there was considerable talk about the flying disc having been found in the vicinity. A number of what appeared to be young high school students were present and were having quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding l of the disc. ~tated that he received a definite impression that J? these young students either had themselves or knew of someone who t~d been working for the past two weeks making this "flying disc". "was unable to furnish the names of any of these young men but identified one of them who was making the statements as being employed in a Chevron Service Station at the corner of ViCtory Boulevard and Whitsett Street. He described the youngster as about sixteen years of age.

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II. '.45 AM this date, SAC Hood telephonically contacted the Bureau and advised at approximately 11:30 PM, July 9, 1947, the in Los Angeles had received information from the Resident Agent at ~u~~~~ California, that a "flying disc" had landed in or near Burbank and seen to burst into 1hme when it landed. Further, that it had been the cause of a fire in some woods, this fire either in B~bank or possibly in the c1 limits of Los Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be certain. The fire chief at Burbank had called the resident agent at Burbank and told him he "W:l uld hold the disc for him.

Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Loa Angeles Office received c~lls from the newspapers requesting information. The newspapers stating they had called the AnDY Air Force Intelligence who had stated "we are not interasted". According to )Jr. Hood, this comment Iwd aroused th", newspapers and they stated they intend~d to pUbli~h this quotation and belabo~ same in their fir5tissues. Mr. Hood stated that he had refrained from making any statement to the press other than to admlt pos3cssion of lin object and that it was being turned over to military authorities in tM moming (this AM), it being Mr. Hood's opinion that. he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not one to the effect that we were not interested.

As described to him, Mr. Rood stated that the obj~ct was an aluminum disc about 2' in diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with aluminum paint; and having sorte sort of a radio tube in the center of the disc. This object was in posseSSion of the resident agent at Burbank and would be turned over to military authorltiec (0-2) in Los Angeles this moming. , .,. (>

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